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 Post subject: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:58 am 
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i've never gotten a chance to fiddle much with runewords. i didn't trade much, and now i find it'd be nice to have an enigma for once, or one of the many awesome weapons/armors available with better runes.

so, the question: since i can't get a single HR to drop here any better than i could in bliz servers, is it possible to trade for HRs with uber keys? i can at least farm all of those reliably, so maybe that'd be a good way to finally get a shot at making some nice runewords, or trading for runewords?


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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:14 am 
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Make a light sorceress, farm Hell Countess, she drops all the way to Lo rune, and make yourself some runewords!

Using a maphack would make things easier!

If you make 50 to 100 runs per day, in 30 days you have Enigma... or sooner, or later... :lol:

Go farm Nithlatak, sometimes you get some high runes (Ber, Jah...) and keys!

Gather Perfect Gems, and trade them for runes. 40 Pgems=Ohm

Farm NM Andariel, get some SOJ`s and trade them, and if you are lucky, you can get up to Ber for 3 SOJ`s!

I made Enigma in 10 days since we made the wipe, but i was lucky i found that Jah rune at Nithlatak!

The chances for High Runes are better early in the Ladder Season, but still you can get some nice runes just by making fast and sure runs!

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:18 am 
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cronik wrote:
I can't get a single HR to drop here any better than i could in bliz servers

The drop for runes is 10x on this server. Also, the countess drops max rune 28 (Lo). She's a very good source for runes, but you need patience (hundreds of runs).

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Is it possible to trade for HRs with uber keys?

Well, yes. But it's not the fastest way to earn HRs. Usually, a full set (9 keys) sells for a Vex (or something like that). If you don't want to farm for runes at the Countess, I suggest you try doing Chaos Sanctuary or Worldstone Keep lvls 2-3 and Throne. It could go slower than farming for keys, but you will find better items (items which you can later trade for HRs).

PS. I guess you are playing Hardcore, right? Unfortunatelly, on Hc there aren't as many people as on Softcore, so the trade market is a little rusty.

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:36 am 
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I made a quick translation for the trading prices infos.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2529&p=20845#p20845

But keep in mind that those are mainly for Softcore Players. You can still do something with them by doubling their value to fit the HC market (if you do play HC) and start from there!

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:36 am 
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playing on softcore. i have too many bad memories of lagdeath on bnet to do hardcore chars anymore :lol:

been using a lit sorc to do key runs with meph thrown in and baal around 1/4 the time... prob only a 150-200 runs or so so far and the best rune i've gotten is an ist. maybe i'll try a hammerdin and do chaos/worldstone2-3/baal? i know baal is slowin' my lit sorc down a lot so maybe i should cut that out... hard to tho when i need stuff like drac's since i already have a key set :)

i never knew rune drops were better at beginning of ladder... is that just a trading/population thing?

time: hahahah at the 50-100 runs a day for a month= enigma thing. i love me some d2 but that'd probably burn me out lol. i have lit sorc, bliz sorc, javazon, and fishymancer (all pretty well geared), and been using the lit sorc the most lately to do exactly what u suggested. and maybe the pgems is an idea... i've been banking those for a while now so should have a decent collection (sooo hard not to roll gcs with them too!). tried java in hell cows but even with 250+ mf the drops just seem inferior to other stuff...

thanks guys! just trying to figure out best way to get a shot at some runewords! i'll probably stick with keyruns (yey countess! others are so fast with MH that i can't NOT do them) and make a hammerdin or something to do chaos/worldstone/throne as you suggested!

woot! been using the other pricing guide, and the translation will definitely make things easier!


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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 9:56 am 
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cronik wrote:
i never knew rune drops were better at beginning of ladder... is that just a trading/population thing?


Nah, just something i picked up while playing on PVPGN servers!
But i still get high runes, just today a Gul @ Mephi`s Chest (the one in the back!), thou` it's the first rune 20+ i find there, and i`ve opened that chest at least 1000 times since RR; and i only do 10-15 runs with my hammeredin, and called it a day! :P



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hahahah at the 50-100 runs a day for a month= enigma thing. i love me some d2 but that'd probably burn me out lol. i have lit sorc, bliz sorc, javazon, and fishymancer (all pretty well geared), and been using the lit sorc the most lately to do exactly what u suggested. and maybe the pgems is an idea... i've been banking those for a while now so should have a decent collection (sooo hard not to roll gcs with them too!). tried java in hell cows but even with 250+ mf the drops just seem inferior to other stuff...


i don't think 100 runs per day is a long shot. If u make one Countess run in 35 to 50 seconds (a decent time!) then as google pointed out (if we take the 50 second rule) = 50 seconds multiplied by 100 = 1.38888889 hours

One and a half hour it's not that much... i bet even you play more than that!
We made like 4-5 hours per day when the ladder started, to make Coh/Infinity and then Enigma!

Don't waste your time on cows, lol. Low exp and even lower drop rate! You could probably make more exp and get more items from a Hell: Den of Evil than from a Hell Cow run! and that's not even funny anymore! :?

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i'll probably stick with keyruns

Yeah well, take this into consideration: Everyone has keys and torches, most of them are free!
The only torches that bare some real value are of course the high ones (18+/18+/4+ - if u don't know what those numbers mean, than you have to take a look at our version of a torch :roll: ) and the sorc/paly ones! The sorceress being the most hunted!


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(yey countess! others are so fast with MH that i can't NOT do them) and make a hammerdin or something to do chaos/worldstone/throne as you suggested!

Yeah, do what Shokat said, but i presumed that this is common knowledge, in act4/5 you find all the items in the game, and there are your best chances to get rich fast!

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:00 am 
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btw if you still need smiter gear, wisp me up, i can give you some for free. I have tons of draculs on my mule, maybe even a low pally torch!

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2011 10:15 am 
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time wrote:
Yeah, do what Shokat said, but i presumed that this is common knowledge, in act4/5 you find all the items in the game, and there are your best chances to get rich fast!


yea i knew those were good spots, but on bnet keyhunting was a good way to get some decent trading clout. makes sense they're not worth as much here! i'm only bothering with it now to get torches for myself and do ubers, and of course the hope for good runes/gear from the 3 bosses.

and i may very well take you up on your kind offer of dracs! gonna fiddle some over next few days and see if i can get things rolling with act4/5 more, but if i start to get frustrated i'll wisp ya so i can get a smiter rolling and do ubers (hesitant to use a keyset with just a summon necro who doesn't have the aura polearms/enigma)

thanks again guys!


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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:04 am 
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hammerdin doing well. got some nice things like arach belt & 4os eth cryptic axe. 6os eth ogre maul too, but dunno if they're worth anything here (used to be godly botd wep)

basically running pit/chaos/worldstone/baal, and getting some good socketables and the occasional nice unique.

can't find dracs tho. if that offer is still on the table, i'll take you up on dracs for sure :) what's your in game name?


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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2011 9:31 am 
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heh... never mind! spent a good 3-400 runs trying for an soj on nm andy and never got one, so figured i'd take a break and do meph a lil as a change of pace. got some dracs on like the third kill. good ol' d2!

thanks anyways broseph! now to tackle some ubers :D


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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2011 5:49 am 
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cronik wrote:
heh... never mind! spent a good 3-400 runs trying for an soj on nm andy and never got one, so figured i'd take a break and do meph a lil as a change of pace. got some dracs on like the third kill. good ol' d2!

thanks anyways broseph! now to tackle some ubers :D


Nm andy is soooo overrated!

I have better chances with Hell Summoner, Randament, Izual, Hephasto and Nihlathak! Well at least there i found more than 10 SoJ`s, and many more important stuff so far!

Mephisto is good for Maras and the usual casual items, like draculs, gore, sands, marrows... etc

You still need to kill Hell Baal, to get the real good ones, like Diadem or Shard... Or try your luck on WSK, thou it's time consuming!

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:37 am 
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yea i strayed away from nm andy now here since everything else she drops of value is worthless here (ali baba used to be a GOOD drop. i can't begin to count how many i've let rot here). i liked her since she was super-fast runs and i was primarily interested in soj, but it just ain't worth it since even the charms she drops are worthless.

atm i'm either running hell meph on bliz sorc (stupid fast and ez, but only do this rarely for a change of pace), leveling 1pt smiter (89 now, so gtg as soon as i find a decent shield), or hammerdin baal/chaos. i kinda like taking a break to take turns doing different things, since i still need some little stuff like gores from stuff like meph, but you're right that baal is what i gotta focus on for the besty of the best stuffs. prolly only done 100 runs of him so far.

never ran radament... that's a thought. is pit/wsk/chaos still best place to get a shot at socketables?

prolly do my first uber trist tonight. was gonna wait for gore/sanctuary shield, but getting too impatient lol. thanks for the tips!


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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2011 9:06 pm 
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cronik wrote:
never ran radament... that's a thought. is pit/wsk/chaos still best place to get a shot at socketables?


Yeah. But i would avoid Chaos if i really wanted to find some items to make runewords in!

Act 5 is your best choice!

And try and clean up The Furnance of Pain, when you do Ubers Runs, i once found there a 15 ed AP, and just this morning a 14/15 Dusk with 4 sockets!
And in this zones you can find items that don't normally spawn in any of the Hell Acts, like War Scepter/Divine Scepter/Caduceus with Vigor or Blessed Hammer Skill bonus!

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"I may be a traitor, but i make sure you get the good stuff by killing me!"

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 Post subject: Re: in all the years i've played d2...
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hahhaha love the izzy gif! i've never farmed him before, but he's super easy and does that nifty "kill all bad guys" aoe wave which is awesome! thanks, he's been fun to add into the rotation now and then!

been doing well on your advice, and just checkin' in to say thanks! about to try another uber run, and hopefully this one won't yield a crappy dru/assn torch!


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