Intrebare - Magic Find

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Intrebare - Magic Find

Post by Himura » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:45 am

Am observat ca itemele de set nu sar din bossii mari niciodata am facut si andi si meph si baal nu sar iteme de set pica doar la monstrii oarecare normal ar trebuii sa pice si la bossii mari.
Si am mai observat un lucru din mephisto sar 10 lucruri toate praf la andi la fel baal la fel joc pe server de 1 sapt am facut o soarca rpd de mf am pus pe ea 700 mf de o sapt fac mf intruna nu am gasit nik la pindle cad numai prostii cu 700 mf ce vroiam sa intreb drop rate este marit si la Elite Unique items sau doar la unique items ? ca nu mi`a picat nici un elite unique(shard,nw,corona,etc).

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Re: mf-set items

Post by [DmG]Sabrossa » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:14 am

incearca cu 150-200-250 max mf.
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Re: mf-set items

Post by shagy » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:15 pm

nu vad rostul a 700 mf...incearca cu 150 max 200 mf..

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Re: mf-set items

Post by alexey » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:40 pm

Ba are rost si mf-ul mare pe char...nu la andy , mephisto ...etc , ci la astia mai mici. Daca ai mf mare ai sanse mai mari sa sara din ei iteme bune ,rune, etc. Daca ai mf putin nu prea vezi decat iteme magice(albastre).
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Post by [DmG]Sabrossa » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:17 pm

alexey wrote:Ba are rost si mf-ul mare pe char...nu la andy , mephisto ...etc , ci la astia mai mici. Daca ai mf mare ai sanse mai mari sa sara din ei iteme bune ,rune, etc. Daca ai mf putin nu prea vezi decat iteme magice(albastre).
1.si daca e monstru cu ilvl 78 tu ai impresia ca daca pui 1000 mf iti da shard?
2 . la rune NU CONTEAZA MAGIC FIND
3. cand ai drop de x5 la unice, x2 la set ... crede-ma ca e de ajuns 200-250 maxim mf... pe gs @drop x1 faceam cu 200 si am gasit sharduri, nw-uri,diademe...de toate..
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Re: mf-set items

Post by alexey » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:40 pm

Ma...eu am observat ca acum daca am mf mai mare creste considerabil sansa se a gasi iteme unice..gambene in cutii..sub pietre si alte astea si la monstrii obisnuiti.

Eu stiam ca nu conteaza mf la contesa...la runele de la ea.Nu stiu in alta parte daia zic.Nu te mai rasti assa la mine :lol:

Si eu am gasit diadema aia perfecta ,si multe altele tot cu 200 mf..sau putin peste...

Asta e parerea mea...din ce am observat eu!
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Re: mf-set items

Post by Himura » Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:30 pm

Deci mf ul nu conteaza la contesa sau la rune nu are nici o treaba iar..."If you find an item that gives 20% Better Chance of Getting a Magic Item, and a Monster has a 2% chance to drop a Magic Item, you will now have 2.4% Chance of getting that Magic Item."

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Re: mf-set items

Post by alexey » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:06 pm

bine...la contesa stiam ca nu conteaza mf-u si la chei la fel.
Nu stiam ca nu conteaza la rune in afara de contesa...
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Re: mf-set items

Post by Lost » Fri Jul 10, 2009 5:10 pm

http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin ... 0600/55871
ia documentati-va , sper sa intelegeti
e vorba de mecanismul mf-ului,tc's,eff mf , legaturile dintre mf-killing speed , balanta de aur etc
dar sa nu uitam e vorba si de bulan
cititi cu atentie si rabdare si va veti lamuri
aici un pasaj extras ..

=======================================================
{...}
--TABLE--
MF UEffMF Real %gained
0 0 1
50 41 1.41 41.00
100 ___ 71 ____ 1.71 __ 21.28
150 93 1.93 12.87
200 ___ 111 ___ 2.11 __ 9.33
250 125 2.25 6.64
300 ___ 136 ___ 2.36 __ 4.89
350 145 2.45 3.81
400 ___ 153 ___ 2.53 __ 3.27
450 160 2.6 2.77
500 ___ 166 ___ 2.66 __ 2.31
550 171 2.71 1.88
600 ___ 176 ___ 2.76 __ 1.85
650 180 2.8 1.45
700 ___ 184 ___ 2.84 __ 1.43
750 187 2.87 1.06
800 ___ 190 ___ 2.9 ___ 1.05
850 193 2.93 1.03
900 ___ 195 ___ 2.95 __ 0.68
950 197 2.97 0.68
1000 __ 200 ___ 3 _____ 1.01

{...}

It also means that the gains between each benchmark decrease at you gain more;
if you go from 50% MF to 100% MF, you gained 21% effective MF.
If you go from 100% to 150%, you gained only 12.8%
If you go from 150% to 200%, you gained only 9.3%
and so on.
{...}
==========================================================

ce rezulta din "studiile" facute de acest individ asupra mf mech reiese ca balanta de aur se afla undeva la 300 mf , so you know iar mfu nu are efect asupra runelor nicaieri

singura problema este ca treaba asta se refera la un srv la care nu s-a modificat dropul , dar putem face calcule pe cont propriu ca sa ajungem la o concluzie
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Re: mf-set items

Post by baphomet » Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:55 am

am si eu o intrebare, imi spunea un amic ca extra gold from monsters are efect negativ asupra mf-ului, dar ma cam indoiesc...
any ideas?

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Re: mf-set items

Post by Lost » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:17 pm

baphomet wrote:am si eu o intrebare, imi spunea un amic ca extra gold from monsters are efect negativ asupra mf-ului, dar ma cam indoiesc...
any ideas?
daca ai citit probabil ai observat o chestie

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Treasure Class: Act 1 (H) H2H A
Picks: 1
No Drop: 180
Item1: gld
Prob1: 21

Item2: Act 1 (H) Equip A
Prob2: 16
Item3: Act 1 (H) Junk
Prob3: 21
Item4: Act 1 (H) Good
Prob4: 2
=============================

raspunsul e nu , extra gold nu afecteaza mf-ul deoarece si daca nu ai extra gold si daca ai , goldu tot va cadea din mob , singurul efect al extra gold-ului asupra dropului de gold fiind cantitatea care cade deci nu cade 500 gold ci 4000 gold

in concluzie extra gold nu afecteaza probabilitatile de drop :)
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Re: mf-set items

Post by baphomet » Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:30 pm

ms de lamurire :D

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